[Women] Women's Group Feb. 10
Annie Warmke
annie at bluerockstation.com
Sat Feb 6 17:24:04 CST 2021
Chris; We will be sending you something we've been working on so you
will have it for the board meeting. Cindy; We have been using this
forum because it's important that all of our women members know what is
going on, and what is being done about it so that we can feel safe, no
matter who is involved now, or in the future. Annie
On 2/6/2021 12:09 PM, Cindy Brown via Women wrote:
> I'd like to just reiterate Teresa's earlier email - this conversation
> really should not be taking place on such a large list. I'm quite
> uncomfortable with this knowledge that I have no right to possess.
>
> Thanks
> Cindy
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 11:55 AM Chris via Women <women at fuusm.org
> <mailto:women at fuusm.org>> wrote:
>
> I did not know this about Paul Dunn. I do not know the names of
> the women he harassed before he left. Let me know their names or
> keep them provate. That is okay with me.
> I am on the Board as well as Beth Lapore and Nancy Luthy. So if
> anyone has information you want us to bring up at the Board
> meeting on Monday, let one of us know. My though right now is
> someone or Kat should confront him when he returns. Tell him he is
> welcomed into our community, but his behavior will not be
> tolerated. Well, something like that.
> Give one of us feedback for the meeting and I will share with you
> what I learned at the Board meeting.
> Chris
>
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> *From: *Maureen <women at fuusm.org <mailto:women at fuusm.org>>
> *To: *A List <women at fuusm.org <mailto:women at fuusm.org>>
> *Cc: *Maureen <maureenolander at gmail.com
> <mailto:maureenolander at gmail.com>>
> *Date: *Saturday, 6 February 2021 10:13 AM EST
> *Subject: *Re: [Women] Women's Group Feb. 10
>
> I have a couple of thoughts based on harassment at my
> workplaces: First, it does no good to mildly rebuke the
> harasser. My first harasser used to ogle and leer whenever I
> approached his desk, which I had to do frequently. He was
> sitting on a high stool (he was a dispatcher) and one day I
> accidentally brushed his crotch area. He started hooting and I
> just snapped. I said very loudly “John, f*** off!” There was
> dead silence in the dispatcher’s room for several minutes. I
> never had a problem again. Make a stink. Be loud.
> The second technique is based on advice to document workplace
> incidents, when, where and what. I wrote a letter to my
> harasser recounting what he did and when and asking him to
> stop. When the time was right I used it with satisfactory results.
> In all my experiences I was harassed by men whom I’d turned
> down for a date or had otherwise hurt their little egos, no
> matter how gently. Remember that these incidents are all about
> revenge and aggression, so respond accordingly. It sounds like
> we need a UU Me Too.
> Shalom, Maureen
> Hope
>
> On Feb 5, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Teresa Hayes via Women
> <women at fuusm.org <mailto:women at fuusm.org>> wrote:
>
> FYI: This was sent to all of the women's group not to
> Karen or Rebecca alone.
>
> I don't object to this being sent to everyone, but I do
> want to point out that there are two reply arrows that one
> can use on e-mails. The single arrow replies to the person
> who sent the e-mail and the double arrow replies to the
> entire group, in this instance to the women's group. In
> many cases it's important to be sure who you are replying to.
>
> Since it came to everyone, I wanted to offer an opinion.
> It's important for the woman who is being harassed to step
> into her own power and let Paul know his advances are
> unwanted. I know some women do not feel capable of doing
> this, so it is up to each of us who do, to step forward
> and support our sisters until they do feel empowered
> enough to speak for themselves. After all, Paul is not
> the only man in our community who might sexually harass a
> woman. By community I mean our church community, work
> community, larger community, any community of which a
> woman may be a member.
>
> So, standing on the side of love for my sisters, I suggest
> we formulate a plan to let Paul know that his advances and
> sexual harassment will not be tolerated. And we need to
> base this upon either existing church policy, or develop a
> church policy that addresses sexual harassment. It really
> is no more difficult than we make it.
>
> If anyone wishes to reply to me personally about this,
> please feel free to do so.
> teresa_asselinhayes_2000 at yahoo.com
> <mailto:teresa_asselinhayes_2000 at yahoo.com> or 740-350-6249
> On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 2:43:14 PM EST, Annie
> Warmke via Women <women at fuusm.org
> <mailto:women at fuusm.org>> wrote:
>
> Karen; Here's what I'd like to speak about.
>
> This has to do with Paul Dunn and his sexual harassment of
> at least four women in the months before he left. It is
> reported that he is returning in a few days so this is
> very worrisome me that women are not safe in our church
> family. I am concerned also because four came forward but
> how many others are there? Initially (July 2019) a man
> spoke from church spoke to me about Paul and asked what to
> do. I suggested he go to the board president and Kat. He
> did do that but nothing came of it.
>
> Now that Paul is returning the man who spoke up is very
> concerned, and spoke to me again. I asked him to talk to
> Kat and the board to find out what our policy is on
> handling sexual harassment. He was told that they would
> work on it on Monday at the board meeting. That made me
> wonder if there is a policy, and if so, why weren't they
> adhering to it?
>
> I brought the initial report up at the Women's mo. meeting
> in Aug. 2019 and asked what could be done. There was a
> discussion but nothing came of it. I don't feel we should
> be the ones taking the lead on this. It is the men who
> must step up and support the one who initially brought it
> to everyone's attention.
>
> It is clear something needs to be done before Paul
> returns. Shouldn't we, as a women's group make a
> statement about sexual harassment and how we want it dealt
> with? I cannot look away. Annie
>
> On 2/4/2021 1:33 PM, Karen Binkley via Women wrote:
> I am available to talk if you would like. Karen Binkley
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 4, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Annie Warmke via Women
> <women at fuusm.org> <mailto:women at fuusm.org> wrote:
>
> Do you have time for me to call you to talk about a
> problem that, as women, we may want to address? Annie
>
> On 2/4/2021 11:43 AM, Rebecca Phillips via Women wrote:
> Greetings, women of FUUSM,
> Just a reminder that our monthly meeting will be next
> Wednesday, February 10, at 7:00 PM. We will be using the
> church Zoom link (copied below). Our theme is the UU theme
> of "Side With Love," so please bring an example, anecdote,
> poem, whatever on ways that you/we have sided with love
> for people, animals, the planet. . .
> https://zoom.us/j/94822183499?pwd=ZVhkMHZWSnR1bTI5czZWRk1zdFFmQT09
> <https://zoom.us/j/94822183499?pwd=ZVhkMHZWSnR1bTI5czZWRk1zdFFmQT09>
> Meeting ID: 948 2218 3499 Passcode: fuusm2323
> Hope to see you then!
> Rebecca
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Farmer, activist, consultant, writer
Blue Rock Station/Warmke Farm LLC
www.bluerockstation.com
(740) 674-4300 or (740) 252-6295 Mobile
Radio: When the Biomass Hits the Wind Turbine
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