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<p>Chris; We will be sending you something we've been working on so
you will have it for the board meeting. Cindy; We have been
using this forum because it's important that all of our women
members know what is going on, and what is being done about it so
that we can feel safe, no matter who is involved now, or in the
future. Annie<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'd like to just reiterate Teresa's earlier email -
this conversation really should not be taking place on such a
large list. I'm quite uncomfortable with this knowledge that I
have no right to possess.
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Cindy</div>
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<div>I did not know this about Paul Dunn. I do not know
the names of the women he harassed before he left. Let
me know their names or keep them provate. That is okay
with me.</div>
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<div>I am on the Board as well as Beth Lapore and Nancy
Luthy. So if anyone has information you want us to bring
up at the Board meeting on Monday, let one of us know.
My though right now is someone or Kat should confront
him when he returns. Tell him he is welcomed into our
community, but his behavior will not be tolerated. Well,
something like that.</div>
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<div>Give one of us feedback for the meeting and I will
share with you what I learned at the Board meeting.</div>
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<div>Chris</div>
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</strong>Maureen <<a
href="mailto:women@fuusm.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">women@fuusm.org</a>><br>
<strong>To: </strong>A List <<a
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<strong>Cc: </strong>Maureen <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">maureenolander@gmail.com</a>><br>
<strong>Date: </strong>Saturday, 6 February 2021
10:13 AM EST<br>
<strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [Women] Women's
Group Feb. 10<br>
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I have a couple of thoughts based on harassment at
my workplaces: First, it does no good to mildly
rebuke the harasser. My first harasser used to
ogle and leer whenever I approached his desk,
which I had to do frequently. He was sitting on a
high stool (he was a dispatcher) and one day I
accidentally brushed his crotch area. He started
hooting and I just snapped. I said very loudly
“John, f*** off!” There was dead silence in the
dispatcher’s room for several minutes. I never had
a problem again. Make a stink. Be loud.
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<div>The second technique is based on advice to
document workplace incidents, when, where and
what. I wrote a letter to my harasser recounting
what he did and when and asking him to stop.
When the time was right I used it with
satisfactory results.</div>
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<div>In all my experiences I was harassed by men
whom I’d turned down for a date or had otherwise
hurt their little egos, no matter how gently.
Remember that these incidents are all about
revenge and aggression, so respond accordingly.
It sounds like we need a UU Me Too.<br>
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<div>Shalom, Maureen</div>
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<div>Hope</div>
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<div>On Feb 5, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Teresa
Hayes via Women <<a
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<div dir="ltr">FYI: This was sent
to all of the women's group not to
Karen or Rebecca alone.<br>
<br>
I don't object to this being sent
to everyone, but I do want to
point out that there are two reply
arrows that one can use on
e-mails. The single arrow replies
to the person who sent the e-mail
and the double arrow replies to
the entire group, in this instance
to the women's group. In many
cases it's important to be sure
who you are replying to.<br>
<br>
Since it came to everyone, I
wanted to offer an opinion. It's
important for the woman who is
being harassed to step into her
own power and let Paul know his
advances are unwanted. I know
some women do not feel capable of
doing this, so it is up to each of
us who do, to step forward and
support our sisters until they do
feel empowered enough to speak for
themselves. After all, Paul is
not the only man in our community
who might sexually harass a
woman. By community I mean our
church community, work community,
larger community, any community of
which a woman may be a member.<br>
<br>
So, standing on the side of love
for my sisters, I suggest we
formulate a plan to let Paul know
that his advances and sexual
harassment will not be tolerated.
And we need to base this upon
either existing church policy, or
develop a church policy that
addresses sexual harassment. It
really is no more difficult than
we make it.<br>
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If anyone wishes to reply to me
personally about this, please feel
free to do so. <a
href="mailto:teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com"
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moz-do-not-send="true">teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com</a>
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<div>On Thursday, February 4,
2021, 2:43:14 PM EST, Annie
Warmke via Women <<a
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<p>Karen; Here's what I'd
like to speak about. </p>
<p>This has to do with Paul
Dunn and his sexual
harassment of at least
four women in the months
before he left. It is
reported that he is
returning in a few days so
this is very worrisome me
that women are not safe in
our church family. I am
concerned also because
four came forward but how
many others are there?
Initially (July 2019) a
man spoke from church
spoke to me about Paul and
asked what to do. I
suggested he go to the
board president and Kat.
He did do that but nothing
came of it.</p>
<p>Now that Paul is
returning the man who
spoke up is very
concerned, and spoke to me
again. I asked him to
talk to Kat and the board
to find out what our
policy is on handling
sexual harassment. He was
told that they would work
on it on Monday at the
board meeting. That made
me wonder if there is a
policy, and if so, why
weren't they adhering to
it?</p>
<p>I brought the initial
report up at the Women's
mo. meeting in Aug. 2019
and asked what could be
done. There was a
discussion but nothing
came of it. I don't feel
we should be the ones
taking the lead on this.
It is the men who must
step up and support the
one who initially brought
it to everyone's
attention.</p>
<p>It is clear something
needs to be done before
Paul returns. Shouldn't
we, as a women's group
make a statement about
sexual harassment and how
we want it dealt with? I
cannot look away. Annie</p>
<div>On 2/4/2021 1:33 PM,
Karen Binkley via Women
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<p>Do you have time for me
to call you to talk about
a problem that, as women,
we may want to address?
Annie</p>
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<div>On 2/4/2021 11:43 AM,
Rebecca Phillips via Women
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<div
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a reminder that our
monthly meeting will be
next Wednesday, February
10, at 7:00 PM. We will be
using the church Zoom link
(copied below). Our theme
is the UU theme of "Side
With Love," so please
bring an example,
anecdote, poem, whatever
on ways that you/we have
sided with love for
people, animals, the
planet. . . </div>
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Arriving at Blue Rock Station</pre>
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Blue Rock Station/Warmke Farm LLC
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.bluerockstation.com">www.bluerockstation.com</a>
(740) 674-4300 or (740) 252-6295 Mobile
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The Business of Goat Herding (BRS Media)
The Journey Toward Nothing (BRS Media)
Naturally Healthy Goats (BRS Media)
Podcasts: bluerockstation.com
When the Biomass Hits the Wind Turbine
Arriving at Blue Rock Station</pre>
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