[Fuusm-l] opening up

Sat Jun 13 12:09:43 CDT 2020

I think it would have been acceptable to most of the congregation to host
AA, had it been made clear to the congregation that we were going to do so,
and exactly what the protocol was going to be.  I think they are worthy of
making an exception for, and had there been better communication amongst
ourselves we could have done so, and may still be able to reach out to
them, with the proper protocols in place.

Kelcey

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:53 AM Rhea Bockhorst via Fuusm-l <
fuusm-l at fuusm.org> wrote:

> As a long time (former) member of FUUSM and as a recovered alcoholic who
> got sober in Fellowship Hall, I urge FUUSM to continue to support the AA
> meeting. The AA meeting at FUUSM has saved many lives (including my own)
> and is a very valuable community service.
>
> Rhea Bockhorst
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 8:50 AM Annie Warmke via Fuusm-l <
> fuusm-l at fuusm.org> wrote:
>
>> Ted;  Please don't blame yourself.  I believe people are worried - it's
>> human nature to worry when you don't feel in control.  My concern was the
>> lack of effective communication after the board met.  I think it's vital to
>> be able to listen to people's concerns and then utilize logic to decide how
>> to handle it.  My other concern is that we care for our own first, and then
>> for others - just like the instructions on the airline if there's an
>> emergency.
>>
>> I am unsure that it was necessary to "turn out" AA but I do think the
>> problem potentially is greater then AA once a week entering downstairs
>> because it seems there have been people regularly entering the office, and
>> possibly downstairs.  If the task force can establish some basic guidelines
>> that everyone understands exist as a baseline for future activities I think
>> this will help waylay concerns.  It seems likely that the next few weeks
>> will prove that we are on the right track with where we're going with
>> planning.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.  Annie
>> On 6/11/2020 10:20 PM, Ted Goertzel wrote:
>>
>> Annie,
>>
>> It looks like the Board made a mistake by taking a vote and making a
>> decision.  I thought we could take a vote and put aside what I thought was
>> a minor issue so we could get on to more important things such as our
>> budgetary situation.  But it wasn't a minor issue to a lot of people.  The
>> risk of church members getting Covid because the AA people were meeting in
>> the building seems negligible, especially since we aren't even going there
>> ourselves.  Turning out the AA because we haven't got our guidelines
>> together for our own meetings seems out of keeping for a "church of the
>> helping hand".  I hope they find a more helpful host.
>>
>> Would it have been different if we had sent out an email to the list
>> explaining our reasoning in detail?  Cory has done that now, but I, at
>> least, didn't anticipate the need for it. I'm not sure I should be on the
>> board at all, I seem to be out of touch with what really concerns the
>> members.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:51 AM Annie Warmke via Fuusm-l <
>> fuusm-l at fuusm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems like there are some folks who aren't OK with the decision to
>>> open the building up, even though it is an important group.  I'm wondering
>>> the reason that there can't be a canopy erected in the court yard for AA
>>> and the cover can be removed after the meeting and put back on the next
>>> week for their get together.  It feels disingenuous to have a ZOOM meeting
>>> where several people including Al Tuttle made some great points as to the
>>> reasons we should wait to open up the building, and then the board decides
>>> to open up the building without  making an announcement to us.  We have a
>>> responsibility to our vulnerable members to do the best we can to protect
>>> them, don't we?  I know AA is vital to some folks lives but it seems like
>>> there are possible temporary solutions if enough people put their brains
>>> together.  Annie Warmke
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/10/2020 8:02 PM, Shari Miller via Fuusm-l wrote:
>>>
>>> Bruce Virginia Annie ditto to what you are saying.
>>>
>>> *Sent from my LG V40 ThinQ, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone*
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *BRUCE HENTHORN via Fuusm-l
>>> *Date: *Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:19 PM
>>> *To: *Joe Baker;FUUSM;VIRGINIA HENTHORN;
>>> *Cc: *
>>> *Subject:*Re: [Fuusm-l] opening up
>>>
>>> I have been following this email. First off, I am upset for so many
>>> reasons not just what is happening in my UU church. To make sure I am clear
>>> --  the physical building that I am supporting by my financial  support of
>>> the UU organization that I am currently not able to use for church business
>>> / activities is being offered for use by outside organizations that are not
>>> complying with the recommended guidelines. For me this does not seem right.
>>> What am I to do? I guess I need to reevaluate the position?
>>> Bruce Henthorn
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Fuusm-l <fuusm-l-bounces at fuusm.org> <fuusm-l-bounces at fuusm.org>
>>> on behalf of VIRGINIA HENTHORN via Fuusm-l <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>>> <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:29 PM
>>> *To:* Joe Baker <jbaker0509 at gmail.com> <jbaker0509 at gmail.com>; FUUSM
>>> <fuusm-l at fuusm.org> <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Fuusm-l] opening up
>>>
>>> Hello all FUUSM members,
>>> Please sign your name when your reply. Its hard to keep track of who is
>>> saying what. Bruce & I did not attend the zoom board meeting, but we
>>> appreciate the concerns Annie Warmke has raised below. It seems like
>>> members of the church are cancelling our events at FUUSM & our committees &
>>> discussion groups are meeting via zoom, etc  …..., but we are opening
>>> events to outside groups without compliance of best practices.
>>> Virginia ( & Bruce) Henthorn
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Joe Baker via Fuusm-l <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to know too, Annie.
>>> *Could we please have a detailed statement from the Board of Trustees
>>> about opening our facilities. Thank you.*
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:41 PM Annie Warmke via Fuusm-l <
>>> fuusm-l at fuusm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe I missed something but going into the board meeting last week it
>>> seemed like people in general didn't want to open up the church or
>>> social hall yet.  Then this week I see that it's happening, and from the
>>> looks of things it seems like the visits from people are not under the
>>> control of some sort of protection routine.  I wrote a note listing
>>> criteria for this prior to the board meeting.  Jay and I canceled
>>> holding the solar installer classes in the building out of realistic
>>> safety concerns (although I think he implied in a note that it was the
>>> board's decision).  I also thought there was a task force forming to
>>> determine the best way to proceed - and I volunteered to serve on that
>>> but have heard nothing.  What's up folks?
>>>
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>> Annie Warmke
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