[Fuusm-l] opening up

Fri Jun 12 09:52:48 CDT 2020

As a long time (former) member of FUUSM and as a recovered alcoholic who
got sober in Fellowship Hall, I urge FUUSM to continue to support the AA
meeting. The AA meeting at FUUSM has saved many lives (including my own)
and is a very valuable community service.

Rhea Bockhorst

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 8:50 AM Annie Warmke via Fuusm-l <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
wrote:

> Ted;  Please don't blame yourself.  I believe people are worried - it's
> human nature to worry when you don't feel in control.  My concern was the
> lack of effective communication after the board met.  I think it's vital to
> be able to listen to people's concerns and then utilize logic to decide how
> to handle it.  My other concern is that we care for our own first, and then
> for others - just like the instructions on the airline if there's an
> emergency.
>
> I am unsure that it was necessary to "turn out" AA but I do think the
> problem potentially is greater then AA once a week entering downstairs
> because it seems there have been people regularly entering the office, and
> possibly downstairs.  If the task force can establish some basic guidelines
> that everyone understands exist as a baseline for future activities I think
> this will help waylay concerns.  It seems likely that the next few weeks
> will prove that we are on the right track with where we're going with
> planning.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.  Annie
> On 6/11/2020 10:20 PM, Ted Goertzel wrote:
>
> Annie,
>
> It looks like the Board made a mistake by taking a vote and making a
> decision.  I thought we could take a vote and put aside what I thought was
> a minor issue so we could get on to more important things such as our
> budgetary situation.  But it wasn't a minor issue to a lot of people.  The
> risk of church members getting Covid because the AA people were meeting in
> the building seems negligible, especially since we aren't even going there
> ourselves.  Turning out the AA because we haven't got our guidelines
> together for our own meetings seems out of keeping for a "church of the
> helping hand".  I hope they find a more helpful host.
>
> Would it have been different if we had sent out an email to the list
> explaining our reasoning in detail?  Cory has done that now, but I, at
> least, didn't anticipate the need for it. I'm not sure I should be on the
> board at all, I seem to be out of touch with what really concerns the
> members.
>
> Ted
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:51 AM Annie Warmke via Fuusm-l <
> fuusm-l at fuusm.org> wrote:
>
>> It seems like there are some folks who aren't OK with the decision to
>> open the building up, even though it is an important group.  I'm wondering
>> the reason that there can't be a canopy erected in the court yard for AA
>> and the cover can be removed after the meeting and put back on the next
>> week for their get together.  It feels disingenuous to have a ZOOM meeting
>> where several people including Al Tuttle made some great points as to the
>> reasons we should wait to open up the building, and then the board decides
>> to open up the building without  making an announcement to us.  We have a
>> responsibility to our vulnerable members to do the best we can to protect
>> them, don't we?  I know AA is vital to some folks lives but it seems like
>> there are possible temporary solutions if enough people put their brains
>> together.  Annie Warmke
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/2020 8:02 PM, Shari Miller via Fuusm-l wrote:
>>
>> Bruce Virginia Annie ditto to what you are saying.
>>
>> *Sent from my LG V40 ThinQ, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone*
>>
>> ------ Original message------
>> *From: *BRUCE HENTHORN via Fuusm-l
>> *Date: *Wed, Jun 10, 2020 7:19 PM
>> *To: *Joe Baker;FUUSM;VIRGINIA HENTHORN;
>> *Cc: *
>> *Subject:*Re: [Fuusm-l] opening up
>>
>> I have been following this email. First off, I am upset for so many
>> reasons not just what is happening in my UU church. To make sure I am clear
>> --  the physical building that I am supporting by my financial  support of
>> the UU organization that I am currently not able to use for church business
>> / activities is being offered for use by outside organizations that are not
>> complying with the recommended guidelines. For me this does not seem right.
>> What am I to do? I guess I need to reevaluate the position?
>> Bruce Henthorn
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Fuusm-l <fuusm-l-bounces at fuusm.org> <fuusm-l-bounces at fuusm.org>
>> on behalf of VIRGINIA HENTHORN via Fuusm-l <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>> <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:29 PM
>> *To:* Joe Baker <jbaker0509 at gmail.com> <jbaker0509 at gmail.com>; FUUSM
>> <fuusm-l at fuusm.org> <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Fuusm-l] opening up
>>
>> Hello all FUUSM members,
>> Please sign your name when your reply. Its hard to keep track of who is
>> saying what. Bruce & I did not attend the zoom board meeting, but we
>> appreciate the concerns Annie Warmke has raised below. It seems like
>> members of the church are cancelling our events at FUUSM & our committees &
>> discussion groups are meeting via zoom, etc  …..., but we are opening
>> events to outside groups without compliance of best practices.
>> Virginia ( & Bruce) Henthorn
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Joe Baker via Fuusm-l <fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to know too, Annie.
>> *Could we please have a detailed statement from the Board of Trustees
>> about opening our facilities. Thank you.*
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:41 PM Annie Warmke via Fuusm-l <
>> fuusm-l at fuusm.org> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I missed something but going into the board meeting last week it
>> seemed like people in general didn't want to open up the church or
>> social hall yet.  Then this week I see that it's happening, and from the
>> looks of things it seems like the visits from people are not under the
>> control of some sort of protection routine.  I wrote a note listing
>> criteria for this prior to the board meeting.  Jay and I canceled
>> holding the solar installer classes in the building out of realistic
>> safety concerns (although I think he implied in a note that it was the
>> board's decision).  I also thought there was a task force forming to
>> determine the best way to proceed - and I volunteered to serve on that
>> but have heard nothing.  What's up folks?
>>
>> --
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>> Annie Warmke
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>> Blue Rock Station/Warmke Farm LLCwww.bluerockstation.com
>> (740) 674-4300 or (740) 252-6295 Mobile
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>> The Business of Goat Herding (BRS Media)
>> The Journey Toward Nothing (BRS Media)
>> Naturally Healthy Goats (BRS Media)
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>> Podcasts: bluerockstation.com
>> When the Biomass Hits the Wind Turbine
>> Arriving at Blue Rock Station
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> Annie Warmke
> Farmer, activist, consultant, writer
> Blue Rock Station/Warmke Farm LLCwww.bluerockstation.com
> (740) 674-4300 or (740) 252-6295 Mobile
>
> Radio: When the Biomass Hits the Wind Turbine
> WOUB Digital Wednesday 9 am
> WGRN Digital Friday 11:30 am & Saturday 8:30 am
>
> Publications:
> The Business of Goat Herding (BRS Media)
> The Journey Toward Nothing (BRS Media)
> Naturally Healthy Goats (BRS Media)
>
> Podcasts: bluerockstation.com
> When the Biomass Hits the Wind Turbine
> Arriving at Blue Rock Station
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