[Fuusm-l] use of the sanctuary; use of the office building; SARS2 CoVid19

[Chris Hoke]

Brenda:
Thank you for your input. The Board in June had a discussion about AA meeting and voted on it. It passed to allow them to continue to use the Social Hall. I voted “yes”. I did not care if there were 10 or 20 people in the group. I know they needed to meet during these stressful times.

Then due to the “uproar” of some members of the church, somehow without my knowing, the decision was changed - that they could not meet until we had health procedures in place.

So we only added to their stress of not knowing if and when they would be able to meet at our church. I am not happy about this and agree with you that perhaps they need to find another place that will support them.

Chris

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 10:25 PM, B.Lisk <blisk at att.net> wrote:
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> Thank you Teresa!
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> I know the groups in McConnelsville each have hand sanitizers, wipes, masks, distance observation, no hugging or hand shakes, and they  follow all recommendations for safety. Each group cleans after themselves via wiping down all chairs, tables, coffee pots, restrooms, doors and anything that may be touched. The meeting place is offered by Cedar Ridge Behavioral Health and their janitorial service also cleans everything on weekends.
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> I think this issue, like many others, are talked to death by some FUUSM committees until sometimes decisions are made by only a few, if any are ever made. However, that being said, I think Larry and the members may decide to just go somewhere else, if they can find a suitable venue. I am disappointed to think such a large room, with UV sanitization cannot be used per usual if guidelines are observed.
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> Some peoples lives do hang in the balance.  Thank you to all who support cutting the red tape and going directly to the point of “keep it simple” it really is not the reinvention of the wheel.
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> Brenda Lisk
>  
> From: Chris Hoke via Fuusm-l <mailto:fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:25 PM
> To: Teresa Hayes <mailto:teresa_asselinhayes_2000 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: FUUSM E-mail <mailto:fuusm-l at fuusm.org>
> Subject: Re: [Fuusm-l] use of the sanctuary; use of the office building; SARS2 CoVid19
>  
> Well said!
>  
> Chris
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Teresa Hayes via Fuusm-l <fuusm-l at fuusm.org <mailto:fuusm-l at fuusm.org>> wrote:
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>> Hello everyone.  I thought I might weigh in on the discussion regarding AA meeting in the sanctuary.  
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>> In-person, face to face contact is an important part of recovery groups whether it's AA, NA, Al-Anon, Weight Watchers, and so on.  Not having that kind of intensive support increases many members chance of relapse and threatens their sobriety/abstinence/life.  Therefore, the sooner folks have a chance to meet, the better for them and for our community.   I'm sure there must be some sort of protocol the AA group is observing when they meet for their home meetings at "AA headquarters" on the corner of 3rd and Scammel, and elsewhere.  My guess is that it is protocol that the Ohio Department of Health has established.  I'm sure it includes hand-washing, hand disinfectant, wearing of face masks, and disinfection of surfaces, like tables and chairs.
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>> It seems to me we do not have to reinvent the wheel in order to allow AA to use the property, including being permitted to make coffee.  The only thing that needs to be established is whether the AA group disinfects after themselves and supplies the disinfecting supplies, or whether FUUSM does that.  Since the AA group already cleans up after themselves, it seems they can continue to do that with disinfecting supplies that they bring with them.  Or FUUSM can supply the alcohol or bleach solution and cleaning cloth.
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>> It also makes sense to me that FUUSM committees should be able to hold the same kind of physically distancing meetings and make the use of masks a requirement for in-person meetings.  Those on committees who cannot face to face meet or who do not wish to, can attend via zoom just like they do for Sunday service.
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>> I believe the limit of ten people in attendance at group meetings has been lifted as the State of Ohio has reopened, however it seems that it's still too early to hold church services or sporting events.  Personally, it's too early for me to enter back into many social interactions, just as it is for many in the congregation.  We all have to realize that each of us is responsible for our own health protection and that we each must take appropriate precautions.  We must also realize that what is appropriate for me as a 65+, heart and lung compromised, and immune compromised person (with the exception of a mask) isn't the same for someone else. 
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>> I don't serve on any committees, but I hope those who do, take these observations under consideration.  I am willing to find out how other meetings are being held and gather the ODHS recommendations to share with you.    Thanks.
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