[Women] Women's Group Feb. 10

Sat Feb 6 11:09:41 CST 2021

I'd like to just reiterate Teresa's earlier email - this conversation
really should not be taking place on such a large list. I'm quite
uncomfortable with this knowledge that I have no right to possess.

Thanks
Cindy

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 11:55 AM Chris via Women <women at fuusm.org> wrote:

> I did not know this about Paul Dunn. I do not know the names of the women
> he harassed before he left. Let me know their names  or keep them provate.
> That is okay with me.
>
> I am on the Board as well as Beth Lapore and Nancy Luthy. So if anyone has
> information you want us to bring up at the Board meeting on Monday, let one
> of us know. My though right now is someone or Kat should confront him when
> he returns. Tell him he is welcomed into our community, but his behavior
> will not be tolerated. Well, something like that.
>
> Give one of us feedback for the meeting and I will share with you what I
> learned at the Board meeting.
>
> Chris
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *Maureen <women at fuusm.org>
> *To: *A List <women at fuusm.org>
> *Cc: *Maureen <maureenolander at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Saturday, 6 February 2021 10:13 AM EST
> *Subject: *Re: [Women] Women's Group Feb. 10
>
> I have a couple of thoughts based on harassment at my workplaces:  First,
> it does no good to mildly rebuke the harasser. My first harasser used to
> ogle and leer whenever I approached his desk, which I had to do frequently.
> He was sitting on a high stool (he was a dispatcher) and one day I
> accidentally brushed his crotch area. He started hooting and I just
> snapped. I said very loudly “John, f*** off!” There was dead silence in the
> dispatcher’s room for several minutes. I never had a problem again. Make a
> stink. Be loud.
>
> The second technique is based on advice to document workplace incidents,
> when, where and what. I wrote a letter to my harasser recounting what he
> did and when and asking him to stop. When the time was right I used it with
> satisfactory results.
>
> In all my experiences I was harassed by men whom I’d turned down for a
> date or had otherwise hurt their little egos, no matter how gently.
> Remember that these incidents are all about revenge and aggression, so
> respond accordingly. It sounds like we need a UU Me Too.
>
> Shalom, Maureen
>
> Hope
>
> On Feb 5, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Teresa Hayes via Women <women at fuusm.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> FYI:  This was sent to all of the women's group not to Karen or Rebecca
> alone.
>
> I don't object to this being sent to everyone, but I do want to point out
> that there are two reply arrows that one can use on e-mails. The single
> arrow replies to the person who sent the e-mail and the double arrow
> replies to the entire group, in this instance to the women's group.  In
> many cases it's important to be sure who you are replying to.
>
> Since it came to everyone, I wanted to offer an opinion.  It's important
> for the woman who is being harassed to step into her own power and let Paul
> know his advances are unwanted.  I know some women do not feel capable of
> doing this, so it is up to each of us who do, to step forward and support
> our sisters until they do feel empowered enough to speak for themselves.
> After all, Paul is not the only man in our community who might sexually
> harass a woman.  By community I mean our church community, work community,
> larger community, any community of which a woman may be a member.
>
> So, standing on the side of love for my sisters, I suggest we formulate a
> plan to let Paul know that his advances and sexual harassment will not be
> tolerated.  And we need to base this upon either existing church policy, or
> develop a church policy that addresses sexual harassment.  It really is no
> more difficult than we make it.
>
> If anyone wishes to reply to me personally about this, please feel free to
> do so.  teresa_asselinhayes_2000 at yahoo.com or 740-350-6249
>
> On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 2:43:14 PM EST, Annie Warmke via Women <
> women at fuusm.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Karen;  Here's what I'd like to speak about.
>
> This has to do with Paul Dunn and his sexual harassment of at least four
> women in the months before he left.  It is reported that he is returning in
> a few days so this is very worrisome me that women are not safe in our
> church family.  I am concerned also because four came forward but how many
> others are there?  Initially (July 2019) a man spoke from church spoke to
> me about Paul and asked what to do.  I suggested he go to the board
> president and Kat.  He did do that but nothing came of it.
>
> Now that Paul is returning the man who spoke up is very concerned, and
> spoke to me again.  I asked him to talk to Kat and the board to find out
> what our policy is on handling sexual harassment.  He was told that they
> would work on it on Monday at the board meeting.  That made me wonder if
> there is a policy, and if so, why weren't they adhering to it?
>
> I brought the initial report up at the Women's mo. meeting in Aug. 2019
> and asked what could be done.  There was a discussion but nothing came of
> it.  I don't feel we should be the ones taking the lead on this.  It is the
> men who must step up and support the one who initially brought it to
> everyone's attention.
>
> It is clear something needs to be done before Paul returns.  Shouldn't we,
> as a women's group make a statement about sexual harassment and how we want
> it dealt with?  I cannot look away.  Annie
> On 2/4/2021 1:33 PM, Karen Binkley via Women wrote:
> I am available to talk if you would like. Karen Binkley
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 4, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Annie Warmke via Women <women at fuusm.org>
> <women at fuusm.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Do you have time for me to call you to talk about a problem that, as
> women, we may want to address?  Annie
>
>
> On 2/4/2021 11:43 AM, Rebecca Phillips via Women wrote:
> Greetings, women of FUUSM,
>
> Just a reminder that our monthly meeting will be next Wednesday, February
> 10, at 7:00 PM. We will be using the church Zoom link (copied below). Our
> theme is the UU theme of "Side With Love," so please bring an example,
> anecdote, poem, whatever on ways that you/we have sided with love for
> people, animals, the planet. . .
>
> https://zoom.us/j/94822183499?pwd=ZVhkMHZWSnR1bTI5czZWRk1zdFFmQT09
> Meeting ID: 948 2218 3499 Passcode: fuusm2323
> Hope to see you then!
>
> Rebecca
>
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