[Green] Sustainability grant offered locally!

Fri Jun 5 08:35:13 CDT 2020

Thank you. The application has been submitted, but that is definitely a
point worth mentioning in the further conversations I have with the judges.

=)

Michael Chisholm

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:31 AM gbanz42--- via Green <green at fuusm.org> wrote:

> Michael:
>
>     Thanks for putting together this CITF Dupont grant application and for
> incorporating comments and suggestions for changes.
>
>      Just one final suggestion:
>
>        Toward the end mention that in all promotional activities of the
> Sustainability Forum and during each session of the Forum, Dupont through
> the CITF Program will be clearly recognized for its support.
>
>
> ---- Michael Chisholm via Green <green at fuusm.org> wrote:
> > Thank you to those who contributed their edits an comments on the grant
> > application. I have finished compiling everyones thoughts and attached is
> > the final product! I plan on submitting tomorrow morning. If there are
> any
> > changes that you feel strongly should be made, let me know ASAP. (There
> are
> > additional steps to the grant before money is in hand, and therefore
> future
> > opportunities to make additional points or clarifications.)
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Michael Chisholm
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:10 PM Dawn Hewitt via Green <green at fuusm.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > Great news that a sustainability forum is something DuPont would
> consider
> > > funding with their Sustainability Grant!!!! Yay!!!  We did so much work
> > > planning and preparing for it already, and we had a shoestring budget!
> > > Still, the groundwork has been laid, and I hope we can relay those
> pieces
> > > to you by Wednesday evening!  Thanks so much for taking the lead on
> this!
> > >
> > > I tried opening the application by clicking the link to Google Drive,
> and
> > > got “Couldn’t preview file. There was a problem displaying this
> image.” I
> > > would love to see it.
> > >
> > > Help! Thanks!
> > >
> > > —dawn
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 1, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Michael Chisholm via Green <
> green at fuusm.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I shared a link to edit the application in Google Drive to
> green at fuusm.org.
> > > Whomever has access to this email, please forward to the group
> > > distribution. Let's see if that works, if not.....
> > >
> > > Backup plan!
> > > If forwarding to the group distribution doesn't work, those who want to
> > > make edits/comments on the grant can message me directly. I will share
> the
> > > document with you by sending to your specific email address.
> > >
> > > Thank You!
> > >
> > > Michael Chisholm
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 4:04 PM Annie Warmke via Green <green at fuusm.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Can you hear the band playing and see the balloons and confetti
> falling?
> > >> WOW!  That is so great.  This has so much potential to make great
> movement
> > >> in many areas in the region.  Annie
> > >> On 6/1/2020 3:34 PM, Michael Chisholm via Green wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Below is my message to the CITF grant judges and their response. In
> > >> summary, the Sustainability Forum is a great project to submit! Elise
> had
> > >> some thoughts to help us measure success as well such as an exit
> survey.
> > >> They also realize the strain COVID-19 has placed on potential
> projects and
> > >> are in discussion on how to adjust the wording around a 2020 start
> date,
> > >> potentially going to "all funds must be spent within one year."
> > >>
> > >> I will get a *rough *draft going on the application for the
> > >> Sustainability Forum and provide a Google Drive link tonight for
> everyone
> > >> to share their input to edit or comment without multiple versions and
> > >> emails flying around. I'll leave it up through Wednesday night and do
> > >> a final review Thursday before submitting.
> > >>
> > >> Thank You!
> > >>
> > >> Michael Chisholm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Hi Michael,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From what you described, your project definitely sounds like it would
> fit
> > >> the CITF grant criteria. We do fund purely educational projects in
> addition
> > >> to the more tangible projects where you’re more likely to get your
> hands
> > >> dirty. CITF was born from the understanding that we don’t have all the
> > >> answers and don’t always know what tangible project fits best with
> each
> > >> community’s needs. So, education and collaboration are necessary
> components
> > >> to determining a solution.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The outcomes you choose to measure could definitely be the number of
> > >> attendees (or number of people educated). If you want to get even more
> > >> detailed, you could also send out a survey to all attendees to get a
> sense
> > >> of what new knowledge attendees walked away with or what actions they
> plan
> > >> to take/change in the future based on something the heard or learned
> at the
> > >> forum. And you could also attempt to keep track of new initiatives or
> > >> projects that developed directly from the collaborations at the
> > >> Sustainability Forum – could be difficult to track but interesting on
> a
> > >> number of levels.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Either way, it sounds like an interesting project that deals directly
> > >> with our focus areas – climate change mitigation and adaptation – so
> I’d
> > >> encourage you and Green Sanctuary to apply!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Lindsey and I can talk to you and Green Sanctuary in more detail about
> > >> the requirement that the project start in the calendar year 2020 when
> we
> > >> get further into the grant process. Given a number of factors this
> year, we
> > >> expect to make a change in that language to say that the proposed
> piece of
> > >> the project needs to be completed and funds used within one calendar
> year
> > >> of receipt of the grant funds. We are still working on language there
> – so
> > >> that’s not 100% finalized. But we’ll work with all groups selected for
> > >> grants this year to be sure the language is clear and workable for
> everyone.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Elise
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *From:* Chisholm, Michael
> > >> *Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2020 12:55 PM
> > >> *To:* Vergnano, Elise; CRAIG, LINDSEY
> > >> *Subject:* RE: 2020 CITF Grant Application is Open
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Elise and Lindsey,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I am working with Green Sanctuary in Marietta, to submit an
> application
> > >> to CITF. The project we’d like to submit is a Sustainability Forum to
> bring
> > >> together the community, business leaders, faith leaders, and
> politicians to
> > >> inspire action around preventing and improving the communities
> resilience
> > >> to climate change. We have workshops, keynote speakers, etc. planned.
> I
> > >> have two questions for you:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *Is a project like this forum within the desired scope of CITF?* It
> > >> nails most of the judgement criteria: environmental education,
> community
> > >> engagement, opportunities for DuPont employee involvement, but it is
> > >> difficult to provide a measurable outcome (attendance perhaps?). That
> makes
> > >> me wonder if the purpose of the grant is for more tangible projects,
> like
> > >> installing car changing stations, solar panels, etc. where you can
> measure
> > >> emissions reduced by XXX lbs CO2. If so we will select a project like
> > >> this (but we’d like to strive for big, community wide change!)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The original schedule for the Sustainability Forum was in 2020, but
> due
> > >> to COVID-19, has been postponed to a TBD date (most likely early
> 2021). We
> > >> can start putting expenses for the event on the 2020 calendar year.
> *Is
> > >> that acceptable for consideration given the requirement for the
> project to
> > >> begin in calendar year 2020?*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thank you!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *Michael Chisholm*
> > >> Delrin® Production Specialist
> > >> DuPont"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 10:07 AM Kelcey Jacobs via Green <
> green at fuusm.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Excellent ideas, Annie!
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 9:53 AM Annie Warmke via Green <
> green at fuusm.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I read the grant requirements and it is clear that the committee is
> > >>>> willing to entertain multi-year projects as a special exception.
> The
> > >>>> Sustainability Forum is a project that has so much potential to
> generate
> > >>>> economy through sustainable practices that I think if we have a
> little
> > >>>> feedback from the Dowe committee we could create a first year
> project that
> > >>>> leads to and supports the Forum.  This is an opportunity for Dowe
> to gain a
> > >>>> lot of traction in the community if they decide to have a little
> wiggle
> > >>>> room.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If we think of what we could do the first year - Perhaps create
> online
> > >>>> features of what's happening locally that is going in a sustainable
> > >>>> direction and how to improve it we would gather some steam for the
> project
> > >>>> and push our agenda.  Just one thought.  Signage for buildings and
> churches
> > >>>> (private homes too) that are practicing some form of sustainable
> practice
> > >>>> (like the bike/tour shop downtown might be) to begin a real
> conversation in
> > >>>> the community and then move all that onto the forum in the next
> phase of
> > >>>> the project (think about the sustainable church designation as a
> prototype
> > >>>> and something that could be promoted already).  Just another
> thought.  Annie
> > >>>> On 5/31/2020 8:03 PM, Michael Chisholm via Green wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I reread the criteria, the sustainability forum does meet most of
> the
> > >>>> judgement factors ("impact" may be a difficult metric). I will
> email the
> > >>>> judges at the company tomorrow to get their thoughts and let you
> know what
> > >>>> they say.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Forgive any typos, I'm sending from my phone.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Michael Chisholm
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020, 17:18 Dawn Hewitt via Green <green at fuusm.org>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> More about the sustainability grant from DuPont from Michael
> Chisholm,
> > >>>>> including what kind of projects will be considered.  Ideas please,
> and
> > >>>>> soon!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> —dawn
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> *From:* Michael Chisholm via Green <green at fuusm.org>
> > >>>>> *Date:* May 31, 2020 at 1:56:46 PM EDT
> > >>>>> *To:* Annie Warmke <annie at bluerockstation.com>
> > >>>>> *Cc:* Michael Chisholm <mchisholm20 at gmail.com>, Dawn Hewitt via
> Green
> > >>>>> <green at fuusm.org>
> > >>>>> *Subject:* *Re:  [Green] Sustainability grant offered locally!*
> > >>>>> *Reply-To:* Green Sanctuary List for Environment Issues <
> > >>>>> green at fuusm.org>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Thank you Dawn. I sent the below message to green at fuusm.org last
> week
> > >>>>> but it sounds like it didn't go through? I'll catch up on the
> email chain,
> > >>>>> but attached you can find the application form and criteria. While
> I
> > >>>>> believe the Sustainability Forum is fantastic and worth the
> funding :) my
> > >>>>> impression is this grant is geared towards the kinds of projects
> the
> > >>>>> sustainability forum is trying to inspired the community to
> implement. It
> > >>>>> will give us the opportunity to showcase a great example at the
> forum when
> > >>>>> we finally nail down a date!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hello Fellow Green Sanctuary Members,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> First of all, hope your Memorial Weekend is going well!
> > >>>>> My company is sponsoring sustainability projects in the local
> > >>>>> community with Clear Into the Future grants of up to $10,000
> (typical
> > >>>>> awards are $5k - $10k). Projects must support one of the following:
> > >>>>>    1. Climate change resilience
> > >>>>>    2. Climate change mitigation
> > >>>>>    3. Water stewardship
> > >>>>>    4. Circular economy
> > >>>>>    5. Protect biodiversity
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> These are exactly the type of projects we were trying to inspire
> the
> > >>>>> community to pursue with the sustainability forum! Does anyone
> have any
> > >>>>> ongoing projects or project ideas that this grant can help turn
> into a
> > >>>>> realty?* Application is due June 5th and the project must start in
> > >>>>> year 2020*. Please send multiple ideas. I will be the sponsor for
> the
> > >>>>> application. Please see attached criteria and application forms.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank You,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Michael Chisholm
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 9:29 AM Annie Warmke <
> > >>>>> annie at bluerockstation.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please consider the Sustainability Forum.  It has great promise to
> > >>>>>> change the economy of Marietta by creating a culture of
> sustainable
> > >>>>>> practices starting with an assessment, and then a community-wide
> meeting.
> > >>>>>> The potential impact is what we are all longing to see come to
> life.  I
> > >>>>>> will be happy to work with Michael on this.  Annie
> > >>>>>> On 5/30/2020 10:17 PM, Dawn Hewitt via Green wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Friends,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I can’t believe it: I assumed Michael Chisholm was on the GSC
> mailing
> > >>>>>> list, but he was not!  I’ve cc’d him on this message, forwarded
> what we
> > >>>>>> discussed previously to him, and asked Ralph to add him to the
> list.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I ran into him again this evening, and he wondered why we weren’t
> > >>>>>> discussing the grant. Well, we did…. but then we stopped. But
> Michael
> > >>>>>> wasn’t in on the discussion!!!!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Anyway, he is now, and tonight he said that the grant proposals
> need
> > >>>>>> to be submitted by THIS FRIDAY!  We need to make a decision on
> this soon.
> > >>>>>> Michael will take the lead on sponsoring the proposal, and
> writing it up.
> > >>>>>> We just need to come up with something that will fly with DuPont.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Personally, I LOVE Elin’s idea of swift towers along the river
> trail!
> > >>>>>> Lots of communities are building them, since chimney swifts are
> on the
> > >>>>>> decline, and people cap their chimneys, or increasingly build
> houses
> > >>>>>> without chimneys. And, of course, we long ago took down the vast
> forests
> > >>>>>> full of ancient trees, many of which had broken tops—the original
> nesting
> > >>>>>> sites for the species.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Michael, do you think a seriously professional community-wide
> > >>>>>> sustainability survey would fly with DuPont?  Or funding a super
> duper
> > >>>>>> Sustainable MOV Forum (but without a date being set)? Or a
> seriously great
> > >>>>>> virtual Sustainable Marietta Forum?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Folks, do we have any other ideas?  Michael said whatever we come
> up
> > >>>>>> with, the money has to be spent in 2020, and if DuPont likes the
> results,
> > >>>>>> it’s possible they’d look favorably on us again in 2021.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Put on your thinking caps and reply soon. Be sure to include
> > >>>>>> mchisholm20 at gmail.com on the To: or cc: line to make sure Michael
> > >>>>>> stays involved in this conversation.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> —dawn
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On May 25, 2020, at 4:48 PM, gbanz42--- via Green <
> green at fuusm.org>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Good idea, Annie, a virtual survey followed by the in-person
> event.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It's Dupont not Dow.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ---- Annie Warmke via Green <green at fuusm.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Let's talk about it online.  I will think of some ideas for a
> budget.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But we don't have to make things happen fully by fall. The first
> leg
> > >>>>>> of
> > >>>>>> the forum could be to use the survey with some sort of rewards to
> get
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> people to fill it out, then have an online event to share the
> outcome
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> and work towards a bigger event.  Then based on that information
> we
> > >>>>>> could hold the in-person forum a year from this summer or fall.
> We
> > >>>>>> can
> > >>>>>> brainstorm how all of that could work.  A charging station or two
> > >>>>>> wouldn't cost that much (tops $2,000) but I can't believe that the
> > >>>>>> forum
> > >>>>>> wouldn't be seen as something worth investing in, plus perhaps Dow
> > >>>>>> would
> > >>>>>> be interested in lending us some of their marketing talent to
> promote
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> the event and the survey.  We can ask for lots of things I would
> hope
> > >>>>>> -
> > >>>>>> besides just the $10,000.  Annie
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 5/25/2020 2:20 PM, gbanz42--- via Green wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dawn:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>      This looks like a great opportunity.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       I like your idea of the charging station--although this will
> > >>>>>> likely benefit only a few people.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       What about planning a virtual "Sustainability Forum" for the
> > >>>>>> fall (it's unlikely that in-person meetings will be OK by then?
> What are
> > >>>>>> some costs associated with the Forum if it were virtual?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ---- Dawn Hewitt via Green <green at fuusm.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dear Green friends,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I was talking to Michael Chisholm today, and he told me that
> DuPont
> > >>>>>> is offering grants for sustainability projects of up to
> $10,000–locally.
> > >>>>>> They need to have an in-house sponsor (MICHAEL!!), and I think he
> said the
> > >>>>>> deadline to apply is June 6.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Imagine what we could pull off if we had up to $10,000 to put on a
> > >>>>>> Sustainable Marietta Forum!!  But we can’t even set a date for
> that yet,
> > >>>>>> so, let’s come up with a different idea. How about this: an
> electric car
> > >>>>>> charging station (or two) in front of FUUSM that (on sunny days)
> would be
> > >>>>>> powered by the SUN—on the roof of the sanctuary. Maybe we could
> have a few
> > >>>>>> small panels installed on posts—part of the charging stations (?)
> that
> > >>>>>> connected to FUUSMs system, too, but more visible to make it
> clear that
> > >>>>>> cars charged there would be running on SUNSHINE!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Of course, that’s just my idea. Perhaps you can come up with
> > >>>>>> something even better.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Michael, will you please tell us the details of this grant, and
> how
> > >>>>>> we apply?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> —dawn
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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