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<p>Thank you for your thoughts Michelle Wilson. Thank you for
reiterating that this has been an issue since 2019 and the process
that took place or didn't, to deal with it. I want to explain,
again the sequence of events that led me to bring this issue out
into the open.</p>
<p>I've had quite a back lash for speaking up in this way. It feels
really bad to ask that women and children feel safe from bullying
and harrassment and then be attacked for addressing it in a way
that makes it less possible to brush it under the rug. I know
these are sensitive issues that we often don't know how to talk
about, but none-the-less, if four women came forward, how many
more are out there. Some of us know the names of these women,
and know that Roger did his due diligence.</p>
<p>Don't we have an obligation to let our members know that we are
concerned and want to offer support to those that may have had
this (or other similar) experiences? "Siding with love" sometimes
means "tough" love and sometimes that means putting everything out
into the open for safety. <br>
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<p>As a side note: I spoke up in Aug. 2019 when the women's group
was here for dinner, and out of that meeting the women's group put
together a self-defense class. I waited to see what would be done
by those who had the ability to do something about it, and then
the person in question moved away. The reason I spoke up again
last week is that I found out the person in question was planning
to return to live here so he could come back to the church and to
his friends. That set off an alarm for me. I am grateful to
Roger Kalter for his attempts to do the right thing since at least
July 19th when he first asked my advice.</p>
<p>It is the men who need to step up to the plate on these issues.
They should be disturbed that we don't have policies in place that
have the potential ability to offer protection to those (men and
women, girls and boys) who can be subjected to bullying and
harassment, or worse. I am glad to see some of our male members
offering some input. <br>
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<p>Again, thanks Michelle. I appreciate your weighing in. Annie
Warmke<br>
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<div>At some point we have to do something... What's the next
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I know of information first hand and I know the man who is
bringing up concerns went and spoke to each woman individually
to verify the information. He was trying to get something done
by working with the mens group. I hate to be negative but it
feels like herding cats. At some point, action needs to be
taken. It's been several years now. So, what is the next step? I
don't know of the other cases but the one I'm familiar with we
already very directly addressed the person causing the issue and
that did absolutely nothing. In my family, he was addressed by
three separate people and we were not careful to be nice. He
doesn't see a problem.
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<div>At this point we need to address it as an organization. If
we need to reach out to the committee on ministries, who
specifically should we contact? Also, it seems pointless to
contact anyone if nothing will be done. I expect a timeline
and action or why even bother complaining. I totally
understand why this got posted to the larger group. It feels
like inaction and that is very frustrating.</div>
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<div>I'm not trying to cause a problem but if we can't even
address an obvious issue like this then what are we doing?</div>
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is most respectful to share concerns in person or on Zoom,and
address matters in clear and direct communication with those
who have a grievance. It appears less so to use email. I
myself have experienced great damage to relationships and
community through unwise and unkind email postings.<br>
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We do affirm and promote a "Safe Congregation" based on our
FUUSM Affirmation and I share here a portion of the Policy
Manual on Grievance Resolution.<br>
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[ 2021 ] First Unitarian Universalist Society of Marietta<br>
Current members of the Commitee on Ministries:<br>
Rev. K. Hawbaker, Ron Rees, Nina Redd & John Kidd.<br>
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Conflict Resolution and Grievance Procedure<br>
Adopted by the Board of Trustees, April 9, 2003<br>
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1. All congregants and staff members are expected to
endeavor to settle differences and conflicts by use of clear,
direct, honest and loving communication with the parties
concerned. The grievance procedure should be followed in
cases where such communication fails to bring satisfactory
resolution.<br>
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2. Any grievances must be submitted to the Committee on
Ministries. If needed, to meet this requirement, congregants
appointed by the Committee on Ministries will provide
assistance. The person initiating the action and any
associates who wish to participate in this action must sign
the written grievance document. The document must indicate
the date on which it is properly submitted.<br>
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3. Any grievance between any parties of the FUUSM
community must be <br>
submitted in this documented form to the Committee on
Ministries. <br>
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