<div dir="ltr">Displays of this type are completely controlled by the user. It's really little more than a computer monitor, outdoors, on a stick. If the display changes too fast that's an easily changed setting. They are often programmed to change quickly so traffic sitting at a nearby stoplight can see the whole crawl before the light changes, but we can set it where we choose.
If we choose to just display unchanging white letters on a black background it would look pretty much like what we have now, except that nobody has to go out there and lose letters on 3rd street in the rain.<div><br></div><div>I think new signage that can be changed remotely and display anything desired will be a good upgrade even if the expanded capability is not used often.</div><div><br></div><div>Full disclosure - my son Joe Moore works at Elite and has put together this proposal. They will bring it in on time and will not leave until it's perfect and we know how to use it. They've done all our sign work for years and they do a great job every time.</div><div><br></div><div>Gil Moore</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 10:02 AM robin--- via Fuusm-l <<a href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org">fuusm-l@fuusm.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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Surely there are signs that you can print your message out on paper and put up rather than having to add letters.
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On 10/26/2023 10:43 AM EDT Dawn Hewitt, FUUSM office assistant via Fuusm-l <<a href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org" target="_blank">fuusm-l@fuusm.org</a>> wrote:
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Below is a letter to FUUSM members from the Buildings & Grounds Committee, penned by Al Tuttle, regarding replacement of the Wayside Pulpit (the outdoor sign I update every Monday). A PDF version of this letter is attached. Your input is requested.
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To provide input, you can reply to this email--your message will go to EVERYONE on the fuusm-l list. Alternatively, you can send your comments to <a href="mailto:bandg@fuusm.org" target="_blank">bandg@fuusm.org</a>, and your comments will go only to the members of the Buildings & Grounds Committee. Thanks! --dawn
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">The Building and Grounds Committee has been exploring options to replace the wayside pulpit (outside bulletin board/felt letter board) that is used to post information about FUUSM services and activities. The old “manual” felt letter board display is falling apart and needs to be replaced. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">The question is whether to replace with a similar “manual” felt letter board system with boxes of letters and symbols, or to modernize and go with an electronic LED sign as many of the churches and businesses in the area have done. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">The Building and Grounds Committee is recommending that FUUSM modernize and install an electronic LED sign/wayside pulpit to replace the existing wayside pulpit. Our “Church Lady” – Dawn Hewitt and Reverend Kat are also supportive of an electronic LED sign. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">However, before proceeding, the Building and Grounds Committee would like to input from the FUUSM general membership regarding their thoughts and ideas on uses and other pros and cons. We would also like input from members regarding the use and nature of the messages to be displayed (see issues below).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">The Building and Grounds Committee has received a proposal from Elite Signs for installation of a 4’2” wide x 2’4” tall LED sign manufactured by Optec Displays (</span><em><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-style:italic;font-size:11pt">OptecDisplay.com</span></em><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">). This size is recommended for easy viewing from the sidewalk and vehicles at the intersection. We are considering two possible models. One has LEDs spaced 10 mm apart ($10,405) and the second is a finer resolution with LEDs spaced 6 mm apart ($12,165). Though more expensive, we are leaning toward the finer resolution sign for better clarity. Installation would include removal of the old sign, installation of new posts to support the weight of the sign, and placement of the existing arched FUUSM name plate on top of the new sign. Installation of a dedicated electrical circuit to power the sign is not included and would have to be done by an electrician.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:54pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">1. </span><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt">St. Michaels Catholic Church, Vienna – this is a 10mm LED sign</span></p>
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Marietta, OH 45750
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(740)373-1238
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