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<p>Brenda; As a member of the FUUSM task force, and someone who has
greatly benefited from meetings similar to AA I promise that I
will do everything I can to bring outside use of groups and
particularly AA's use of the building to as quick a resolution as
is humanly possible. I have already proposed a short term
solution and a long-term one so that we can resolve some of the
immediate challenges. Annie Warmke<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/14/2020 12:30 PM, B.Lisk via
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<div>Thank you Chris,</div>
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<div>People who understand are greatly appreciated. The
confusion of yes to be allowed, then to be suddenly not
allowed has definitely been difficult for those who attend.
The problem in finding another place is next to impossible
due to other appropriate places having been “taken” by other
groups, which also need a place to meet.</div>
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<div>I am most certain the group meetings that have always
been held in our fellowship hall on Thursday evening are
carefully following recommended guidelines, due to the fact
that the founder of that particular meeting is a person who
is quite “by the book” in all matters. People who do not
know the AA principles are unaware of the similarity between
AA and FUUSM principles and beliefs. I do hope something can
be resolved promptly between the group and FUUSM in a very
expedient manner. There are no people who are intoxicated or
high on anything inside the meeting, they are people in
recovery seeking to stay that way.</div>
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<div>PS: There is no AA “headquarters” at Serenity House, near
(Third & Wooster) it is just another meeting place where
daily meetings are ongoing. Many folks do not attend due to
the small space and over crowding. Many assorted groups meet
there and many people have found it too risky to have enough
confidence in not only spacing, but dubious cleanliness. </div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
title="cahoke@hughes.net"
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:55 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="blisk@att.net"
href="mailto:blisk@att.net" moz-do-not-send="true">B.Lisk</a>
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<div><b>Cc:</b> <a
title="teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com"
href="mailto:teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Teresa Hayes</a> ; <a
title="fuusm-l@fuusm.org"
href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">FUUSM E-mail</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fuusm-l] use of the sanctuary;
use of the office building; SARS2 CoVid19</div>
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<div>Thank you for your input. The Board in June had a
discussion about AA meeting and voted on it. It passed to
allow them to continue to use the Social Hall. I voted
“yes” I did not care if there were 10 or 20 people in the
group. I know they needed to meet during these stressful
times.</div>
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<div>Then due to the “uproar” of some members of the church,
somehow without my knowing, the decision was changed -
that they could not meet until we had health procedures in
place.</div>
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<div>So we only added to their stress of not knowing if and
when they would be able to meet at our church. I am not
happy about this and agree with you that perhaps they need
to find another place that will support them.</div>
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<div>Chris<br>
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<div>Thank you Teresa! </div>
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<div>I know the groups in McConnelsville each
have hand sanitizers, wipes, masks, distance
observation, no hugging or hand shakes, and
they follow all recommendations for safety.
Each group cleans after themselves via
wiping down all chairs, tables, coffee pots,
restrooms, doors and anything that may be
touched. The meeting place is offered by
Cedar Ridge Behavioral Health and their
janitorial service also cleans everything on
weekends.</div>
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<div>I think this issue, like many others, are
talked to death by some FUUSM committees
until sometimes decisions are made by only a
few, if any are ever made. However, that
being said, I think Larry and the members
may decide to just go somewhere else, if
they can find a suitable venue. I am
disappointed to think such a large room,
with UV sanitization cannot be used per
usual if guidelines are observed.</div>
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<div>Some peoples lives do hang in the
balance. Thank you to all who support
cutting the red tape and going directly to
the point of “keep it simple” it really is
not the reinvention of the wheel.</div>
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<div>Brenda Lisk</div>
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href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">Chris Hoke
via Fuusm-l</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 13,
2020 9:25 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a
title="teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com"
href="mailto:teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Teresa
Hayes</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a
title="fuusm-l@fuusm.org"
href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">FUUSM E-mail</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fuusm-l] use
of the sanctuary; use of the office
building; SARS2 CoVid19</div>
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said!
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<div>Chris<br>
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data-setdir="false">Hello
everyone. I thought I might
weigh in on the discussion
regarding AA meeting in the
sanctuary. <br>
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<div dir="ltr"
data-setdir="false">In-person,
face to face contact is an
important part of recovery
groups whether it's AA, NA,
Al-Anon, Weight Watchers, and
so on. Not having that kind
of intensive support increases
many members chance of relapse
and threatens their
sobriety/abstinence/life.
Therefore, the sooner folks
have a chance to meet, the
better for them and for our
community. I'm sure there
must be some sort of protocol
the AA group is observing when
they meet for their home
meetings at "AA headquarters"
on the corner of 3rd and
Scammel, and elsewhere. My
guess is that it is protocol
that the Ohio Department of
Health has established. I'm
sure it includes hand-washing,
hand disinfectant, wearing of
face masks, and disinfection
of surfaces, like tables and
chairs.<br>
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data-setdir="false">It seems
to me we do not have to
reinvent the wheel in order
to allow AA to use the
property, including being
permitted to make coffee.
The only thing that needs to
be established is whether
the AA group disinfects
after themselves and
supplies the disinfecting
supplies, or whether FUUSM
does that. Since the AA
group already cleans up
after themselves, it seems
they can continue to do that
with disinfecting supplies
that they bring with them.
Or FUUSM can supply the
alcohol or bleach solution
and cleaning cloth.<br>
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data-setdir="false">It
also makes sense to me
that FUUSM committees
should be able to hold the
same kind of physically
distancing meetings and
make the use of masks a
requirement for in-person
meetings. Those on
committees who cannot face
to face meet or who do not
wish to, can attend via
zoom just like they do for
Sunday service.<br>
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<div dir="ltr"
data-setdir="false">I
believe the limit of ten
people in attendance at
group meetings has been
lifted as the State of
Ohio has reopened,
however it seems that
it's still too early to
hold church services or
sporting events.
Personally, it's too
early for me to enter
back into many social
interactions, just as it
is for many in the
congregation. We all
have to realize that
each of us is
responsible for our own
health protection and
that we each must take
appropriate
precautions. We must
also realize that what
is appropriate for me as
a 65+, heart and lung
compromised, and immune
compromised person (with
the exception of a mask)
isn't the same for
someone else. <br>
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data-setdir="false">I
don't serve on any
committees, but I hope
those who do, take
these observations
under consideration.
I am willing to find
out how other meetings
are being held and
gather the ODHS
recommendations to
share with you.
Thanks.<br>
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