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<DIV>Thank you Chris,</DIV>
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<DIV>People who understand are greatly appreciated. The confusion of yes to be
allowed, then to be suddenly not allowed has definitely been difficult for those
who attend. The problem in finding another place is next to impossible due to
other appropriate places having been “taken” by other groups, which also need a
place to meet.</DIV>
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<DIV>I am most certain the group meetings that have always been held in our
fellowship hall on Thursday evening are carefully following recommended
guidelines, due to the fact that the founder of that particular meeting is a
person who is quite “by the book” in all matters. People who do not know the AA
principles are unaware of the similarity between AA and FUUSM principles and
beliefs. I do hope something can be resolved promptly between the group and
FUUSM in a very expedient manner. There are no people who are intoxicated or
high on anything inside the meeting, they are people in recovery seeking to stay
that way.</DIV>
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<DIV>PS: There is no AA “headquarters” at Serenity House, near (Third &
Wooster) it is just another meeting place where daily meetings are ongoing. Many
folks do not attend due to the small space and over crowding. Many assorted
groups meet there and many people have found it too risky to have enough
confidence in not only spacing, but dubious cleanliness. </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=cahoke@hughes.net
href="mailto:cahoke@hughes.net">Chris Hoke</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:55 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=blisk@att.net href="mailto:blisk@att.net">B.Lisk</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com
href="mailto:teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com">Teresa Hayes</A> ; <A
title=fuusm-l@fuusm.org href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org">FUUSM E-mail</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fuusm-l] use of the sanctuary; use of the office
building; SARS2 CoVid19</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you for your input. The Board in June had a discussion about AA
meeting and voted on it. It passed to allow them to continue to use the Social
Hall. I voted “yes” I did not care if there were 10 or 20 people in the group. I
know they needed to meet during these stressful times.</DIV>
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<DIV>Then due to the “uproar” of some members of the church, somehow without my
knowing, the decision was changed - that they could not meet until we had health
procedures in place.</DIV>
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<DIV>So we only added to their stress of not knowing if and when they would be
able to meet at our church. I am not happy about this and agree with you that
perhaps they need to find another place that will support them.</DIV>
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<DIV>Chris<BR>
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<DIV>On Jun 13, 2020, at 10:25 PM, B.Lisk <<A
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<DIV>Thank you Teresa! </DIV>
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<DIV>I know the groups in McConnelsville each have hand sanitizers, wipes,
masks, distance observation, no hugging or hand shakes, and they follow
all recommendations for safety. Each group cleans after themselves via wiping
down all chairs, tables, coffee pots, restrooms, doors and anything that may
be touched. The meeting place is offered by Cedar Ridge Behavioral Health and
their janitorial service also cleans everything on weekends.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think this issue, like many others, are talked to death by some FUUSM
committees until sometimes decisions are made by only a few, if any are ever
made. However, that being said, I think Larry and the members may decide to
just go somewhere else, if they can find a suitable venue. I am disappointed
to think such a large room, with UV sanitization cannot be used per usual if
guidelines are observed.</DIV>
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<DIV>Some peoples lives do hang in the balance. Thank you to all who
support cutting the red tape and going directly to the point of “keep it
simple” it really is not the reinvention of the wheel.</DIV>
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<DIV>Brenda Lisk</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fuusm-l@fuusm.org
href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org">Chris Hoke via Fuusm-l</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com
href="mailto:teresa_asselinhayes_2000@yahoo.com">Teresa Hayes</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=fuusm-l@fuusm.org
href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org">FUUSM E-mail</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fuusm-l] use of the sanctuary; use of the office
building; SARS2 CoVid19</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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said!
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<DIV>Chris<BR>
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<DIV>On Jun 13, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Teresa Hayes via Fuusm-l <<A
href="mailto:fuusm-l@fuusm.org">fuusm-l@fuusm.org</A>> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr data-setdir="false">Hello everyone. I thought I might
weigh in on the discussion regarding AA meeting in the sanctuary.
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<DIV dir=ltr data-setdir="false">In-person, face to face contact is an
important part of recovery groups whether it's AA, NA, Al-Anon, Weight
Watchers, and so on. Not having that kind of intensive support
increases many members chance of relapse and threatens their
sobriety/abstinence/life. Therefore, the sooner folks have a chance to
meet, the better for them and for our community. I'm sure there
must be some sort of protocol the AA group is observing when they meet for
their home meetings at "AA headquarters" on the corner of 3rd and Scammel,
and elsewhere. My guess is that it is protocol that the Ohio
Department of Health has established. I'm sure it includes
hand-washing, hand disinfectant, wearing of face masks, and disinfection of
surfaces, like tables and chairs.<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr data-setdir="false">It seems to me we do not have to reinvent
the wheel in order to allow AA to use the property, including being
permitted to make coffee. The only thing that needs to be established
is whether the AA group disinfects after themselves and supplies the
disinfecting supplies, or whether FUUSM does that. Since the AA group
already cleans up after themselves, it seems they can continue to do that
with disinfecting supplies that they bring with them. Or FUUSM can
supply the alcohol or bleach solution and cleaning cloth.<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr data-setdir="false">It also makes sense to me that FUUSM
committees should be able to hold the same kind of physically distancing
meetings and make the use of masks a requirement for in-person
meetings. Those on committees who cannot face to face meet or who do
not wish to, can attend via zoom just like they do for Sunday
service.<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr data-setdir="false">I believe the limit of ten people in
attendance at group meetings has been lifted as the State of Ohio has
reopened, however it seems that it's still too early to hold church services
or sporting events. Personally, it's too early for me to enter back
into many social interactions, just as it is for many in the
congregation. We all have to realize that each of us is responsible
for our own health protection and that we each must take appropriate
precautions. We must also realize that what is appropriate for me as a
65+, heart and lung compromised, and immune compromised person (with the
exception of a mask) isn't the same for someone else. <BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr data-setdir="false">I don't serve on any committees, but I hope
those who do, take these observations under consideration. I am
willing to find out how other meetings are being held and gather the ODHS
recommendations to share with you.
Thanks.<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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